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Advice for modding my Jag Bass



 
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timmyG
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Advice for modding my Jag Bass Reply with quote

I got a Fender Jaguar Bass a while back, and I must say that I love it, except that, unlike a J-bass, you can't blend the pickups, just turn one of them off. Initially I was thinking of putting on stacked controls on it, like on a '62 J-bass, but I have since shot that idea down as I've considered making it fully active in the future, and a Master Volume-Pan-Tone system would be easier to translate into fully active (just swap the tone out with a mid-range control).

With that in mind, I now have two questions:
1) What type of pot can be used for a Pan control?
2) Should I get a custom made control panel or should I find a luthier and get the jack mounted on the side?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume when you refer to the blend control on a Jazz, you mean an active Jazz. I would think that the concentric knobs would be the way to go, I personally don't like to mods that can't be reversed, but ultimately, the decision is yours.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaguar Bass, and it can be switched from passive to active.

The reason I shot down the concentric knobs was that while it was the more attractive (though not physically, I like the J-bass style knobs) option for the immediate, I was thinking down the road to if I ever wanted to make it fully active, at which point two tone pots would do me little good.

Though I am inclined to agree with you about the mods that can't be reversed, so I think I am going to go with getting the custom plate.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still have questions though, such as the first one I asked. Also, does anyone know if a pan control will work on passive pickups? I ask because I have never seen a passive bass with one.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never seen that either, so I will assume that since passive pickups are not powered a blend control will not work.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I talked to a guy at the local music shop earlier today, and asked him. He said that it he actually has one that's passive with a pan, although he could have misinterpreted what I said.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Continuing on along this discussion, I figured that I might as well ask this question. I like the tone of the stock J-bass pickups, but I want to upgrade to something that's gonna have a little less noise and a little more volume. Any suggestions for quite (noise wise) passives that sound like stock, only louder?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about being louder, I installed a set of Dimarzio DP123's on my Jazz, they are a stacked humbucker and have a nice tone IMO, tone is very subjective so it's hard to give good advice on this topic.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, I've heard good things about lace, but not necessarily that they are louder. Have you heard anything like that?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly you get your volume from your amp, I have heard that the Fender Lace pickups are ok, a lot of players prefer the vintage pickups. Another school of thought also is that the tone is in your fingers.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's a quick piece of advice: instead of getting a blend knob, use individual volume for each pickup. You get WAY more control and tonal variation.

However, with that said, my main axe just has a switch to switch between one, the other or both pickups and it works great for any gig I have.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, but this way I don't really have to worry about the volume changing when I change the balance between the two, as it should stay constant. And I don't think I'd mind not having it so much if it wasn't for the fact that the J-bass has the ability to blend.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

timmyG wrote:
Yeah, but this way I don't really have to worry about the volume changing when I change the balance between the two, as it should stay constant. And I don't think I'd mind not having it so much if it wasn't for the fact that the J-bass has the ability to blend.


What? Of course you do. Bridge pickups tend to have a lower output than neck, just due to the amount of physical movement in the magnetic field generating current. One of my basses has a blend, and even with the pickups height difference, there's still volume adjustment that has to be made as I fade back and forth. Also, you have to compensate for the tonal variation. A blend is a compromise, but I don't know if I'd get one on my next bass.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, thanks for that, I'll keep that in mind, but first I've got to figure out this stupid wiring diagram that doesn't make any sense. WHY IS THERE ONLY ONE WIRE ON THE TONE POT (aside from the ground and the one going to the cap)?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually he got it backwards, the bridge pickup has a higher output because of less movement in the strings and the neck pickup has the lower output, that is why you don't put a bridge pickup in the neck because the balance would be off.
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