7ths Question

MulletBurden · Tadpole Joined: 09 Sep 2003 Posts: 25 Location: Scotland

Right... I'm having a dilema and I'm on the verge of ripping out my mullet....

the 7ths for the major scale are

I Major 7th
II Minor 7th
III Minor 7th
IV Major 7th
V Dominant 7th
VI Minor 7th
VII Minor 7th b5
VIII Major 7th

(correct me if I'm wrong)

The problem lies withing the (natural)minor scale. When finding the 7ths for the scale do you just start from the VI (relative minor/aeolian mode) and loop it round like that... or is there just a completely different way of thinking for it?

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MulletBurden · Tadpole Joined: 09 Sep 2003 Posts: 25 Location: Scotland

anyone?

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Guest · Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 9:24 am Post subject:

I'd love to reply, unfortunately I have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry Embarassed

Mkuk0 · Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 9:25 am Post subject:

Sorry mullet that post was me, dunno why it showed me as a guest.

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SteveJazz · Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 3:57 pm Post subject:

Hi Mullet: Yes, start from the VI, and move up the major scale. The intervals are the same for the major and the minor. Just convert that major VI to a Minor root in your mind. The 7th is one step above the 6th of the minor scale, and is 10 half-steps above that major VI, which has become the root of your minor scale. (This stuff sounds much more complicated than it really is...)

In the key of C major: C,D,E,F,G,A,B (B is the 7th)

The relative minor is A minor: A,B,C,D,E,F,G (G is the 7th)

You are playing an A minor scale (aeolian) or, you can think---I am playing a C major scale, starting on the VI note (A), and playing around to the V note (G).

We are always dealing with 12 tones. Each tone is a half/step away from the next. 7 tone scales have seven notes, as shown in the C major scale above. So, we are using 7 of the available 12 tones in an octave, like this:

C_D_EF_G_A_BC (C major scale)

The _ represents an interval not being used in the scale. There is no C# in the C major scale, for example. C# is between C and D above.

A_BC_D_EF_G_A (A natural minor scale)

All you are doing is moving the tonal center (root) from C to A.

The intervals always proceed is the same fashion.

Hope this makes sense, ask questions if it does not...A scale book like the Bass Grimoire, by Adam Kadmon will make this very clear, with illustrations.

SJ Cool

MulletBurden · Tadpole Joined: 09 Sep 2003 Posts: 25 Location: Scotland

Lol, thanks a lot for that. Although I have to say that all I needed was a "yes, you're right. Start from the Aeolian/VI mode". Everything else is imprinted in my head already. But thank you for taking the time out to type all that out! Very Happy

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Guest · Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 10:45 am Post subject: