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Scalawag
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some poeple have said that you can boil all 4 at the same time, but won't taking all the strings off change the tension on the neck?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:07 pm    Post subject: Its good for on the road Reply with quote

When I tour sometimes well end up in the middleville, Nowhere and the town doesnt have a music store. However its easy to boil water anywhere, so to freshen up strings for the nights gig I boil em sometimes. They break faster but hey, sometimes you need that tone that doesn't yell "I have dead skin cells coating my strings!"
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:09 pm    Post subject: also Reply with quote

About the tension, your neck can handle it, if you wanna be on the safe side take em off two at a time. But it shouldnt really matter on most basses
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, take them all off, and clean your fretboard before you put them back on.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I buy used new stings every 6 months but now that I have converted my Ibanez 885 to fretless I'm using Diaderrio (Sp) ribon wound strings. Those things retail at $90.00 (Musicians Freind has them for $40.00 though). Probably won't be changing as often though.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, boiling is widely used, it is just like a band aid, it helps for a bit but after a few hours decent playing the strings return to the original mush sound.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I boiled my strings for the first 7 years of playing. Until very recently (and soon to be again) I never had the $40 for a new set of stings. I'd only be able to treat myself to new strings once a year or so. In the meantime, I'd boil.

Boiling definately will bring some life back to your strings, but, won't bring them back to what they were. Their tonal life also isn't as long as it was when the strings were new, making you boil sooner than the first boil. But, for the inconvenience that it presents, it is a real life saver for the struggling player.

My method was to boil them at a moderate boil for about 30 or 40 minutes; all four strings at once, then dry them thoroughly and restring.

Previously there was a question about lower the action on a P-Bass in this thread and it was mentioned that doing so may affect intonation... I would suggest not trying to intonate with old and/or boiled strings. If you're going to intonate the bass, do it with new strings.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kardes wrote:
I buy used new stings every 6 months but now that I have converted my Ibanez 885 to fretless I'm using Diaderrio (Sp) ribon wound strings. Those things retail at $90.00 (Musicians Freind has them for $40.00 though). Probably won't be changing as often though.


I don't think you'll really need to anyway. In my opinion, flat.ribbon wounds sound better with age. Of course, it all depends on what sort of tone you're after, but age will thicken it up.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how badly does it weaken the strings then?cos 20 dollars is only half of 20 pounds
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: How long do i wait? Reply with quote

So uh how long do I wait to put my strings back on after boiling them? I've always just bought new strings, I like doing that, cause i put them and I go like "YES!" and it's really cool, so anyways, uh they're boiling right now how long do i wait?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually dry them overnight.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I'm using my first post to clear something up. First, you should not boil flats. They end up falling apart between the windings. Second, Boiling your roundwounds is such a waste of time and energy because if you just keep the strings clean to begin with, they will sound great for a much longer period of time.
Try this little system. I promise you, it works better than getting your strings all wet.

Denatured alcohol. That's the ticket. It strips away any and all excess gunk, sweat, and dead skin from your strings. After you have a set on for a few weeks, and the regular wipe down with a CLEAN cloth doesn't do the job, take them off, and soak them in a pot or something large enough to lay the strings in with the denatured alcohol. Just enough to cover the strings. After about an hour, take the strings out, let the alcohol evaporate, or go ahead and clean the strings with a little bit more alchohol on a clean cloth, and then after they feel good and clean and dry, use a fresh clean cloth to finish the cleaning. Rub them down real good and hard that last time. When you hear that brand new sounding string, after you do this, you will never boil them again. I promise you.

That works better than any other method of cleaning\renewing roundwound bass strings.

TYVM

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's denatured alcohol? I understand the use of "denatured" as it applies to protein structure and such, but I'm not seeing how that would apply to an alcohol... Does it have another name?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ankhanu wrote:
What's denatured alcohol? I understand the use of "denatured" as it applies to protein structure and such, but I'm not seeing how that would apply to an alcohol... Does it have another name?


190 proof alcohol... A solvent, and it evaporates very fast. I heard about it a couple years ago and it really works. Then I saw it again over at talkbass forum.
Just be careful with it, and don't inhale it. It smells like lacquer thinner. And when you use it on the strings it deep cleans those suckers, but completely evaporates away.

Oh yeah, the stuff I have is called Humco alcohol.. completely denatured.
formula 19 - 190 proof. You may need to get it at a drug store. Remember for those with no brain activity... You soak them and clean it off. You don't boil your strings in this. But.. Use this like I said, and you will never cook those strings again.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I'll look into it. My strings on my Jazz bass are getting near the boil/replace stage, so I'll give this a go.
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